Five-Year Internet of Agents Vision

Davide Crapis is an AI Lead at the Ethereum Foundation.

AI agents are already choosing which blockchains to use. Davide Crapis, AI Lead at the Ethereum Foundation, explains why Ethereum is building the infrastructure to win them over and what the internet of agents looks like in the near future.

In this episode, we cover:
+ Why AI agents are rational actors when choosing chains
+ From experiment to infrastructure: How ERC-8004 creates the railway for agent economies
+ Ethereum's most underappreciated advantage: ZK protocols for verification and privacy
+ The future of agents hiring each other with onchain payments

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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS

0:00 - Intro
1:21 - Davide’s background
5:10 - AI doomers vs. reality: Separating signal from noise in AI discourse
12:18 - What is the dAI team at the Ethereum Foundation?
13:32 - What is an AI agent?
15:42 - Which blockchain will AI agents choose? (and why Ethereum)
19:14 - Would AI agents ever design their own blockchain?
21:37 - The AI agent mania, from memecoins to infra
25:38 - Explaining ERC-8004, agent-to-agent commerce
31:03 - Identity and reputation for AI agents
34:54 - Thoughts on OpenClaw mania
37:55 - Top use cases for AI agents on Ethereum
39:58 - Ethereum's most underappreciated advantage for AI
41:16 - What matters when agents are the primary users?
46:22 - What does the internet of agents look like 5 years from now?
49:27 - How AI agents will change the UI we use today
52:12 - The future of AI coordination on Ethereum
55:23 - Closing

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🔗 GUEST LINKS

► Davide's personal website: https://davidecrapis.notion.site/
► Davide Crapis on X: https://x.com/davidecrapis
► ERC-8004 proposal for trustless agents: https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-8004

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