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823. Shannon McLeod

Otherppl with Brad Listi

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The Importance of Pause

"I'm moving pretty much, especially on the way up because I'm climbing and I don't like to stop," she says. "If there was a turtle to look at, I would look at it, but I'm not the person who pauses to like look at a leaf." She's always listening to Buddhism podcasts while hiking with her husband or going alone. 'You will truly stop and just like gaze at a turtle for like a minute or two or longer'

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