The Importance of Friendship in the Face-to-Face Conversation

I want to tell listeners again to check out your newsletter the Confibial Society which is on sub stack and you've written a lot of neat pieces. I thought we could talk about friendship in the kind of the ideal of friendship as a kind of face-to-face encounter in that and how it helps us think about social media and zoom calls like the one we're on now and stuff like that. Illich got really interested in the place of the body late again in that last phase of his career so he's certainly several years older than me. He was influenced by Levonos and in the power of the face and how we receive ourselves as a gift from the other in that