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Sarah Shun-lien Bynum joins Deborah Treisman to discuss “Evolution,” by Joan Silber, which was published in The New Yorker in 2022. Bynum is the author of the novels
“Madeleine Is Sleeping,” a National Book Award finalist, and “Ms. Hempel Chronicles”—and the story collection “Likes.” She was named one of The New Yorker’s “20 Under 40” fiction writers in 2010.