The Russians Are Trying to Make Headway, but They're Not Making Headway

There has been extremely heavy fighting in those areas. The russians claim that they're not hitting civilian targets, but what we saw on the ground certainly seemed to indicate that a lot of civilian houses were being hit. And then you had the deputy defense minister come out and say that the russians are trying to create corridors around the city essentially encircling the city. That's something that the ukranes are trying to stop, and they say they're somewhat making headway. No one can live there right now if you don't want to take over a place,. You just want to destroy it either way.