Experience can exist independent of external outcomes

Part 2 of our recent conversation with Andres Gomez Emilsson asks whether humanity should create machines capable of real consciousness and intention. We explore how artificial minds would feel, what they would desire, and why their motivations might drift far from human needs. The discussion examines the risks of building entities with their own internal harmony, suffering, and evolutionary direction. What emerges is a sober look at whether a machine god is something humanity actually wants.

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00:00 Go! 00:00:00 Framing of artificial consciousness

00:05:39 Limits of simulation and what counts as real experience

00:10:10 Architectures that might support unified consciousness

00:13:17 Feeling, stakes, and the origins of motivation

00:16:02 Binding and coherence in biological and artificial systems

00:21:19 Intention, internal experience, and projected futures

00:26:27 Should artificial consciousness be created

00:29:58 Why people want AGI and how bias shapes belief

00:35:29 AI as an amplifier of human intention

00:41:14 Tools for autonomy versus creating synthetic beings

00:47:04 Social divergence and the future of AI entrepreneurship

00:51:17 Artificial consciousness as a new lineage of life

00:57:06 Desire, autonomy, and alien motivation

01:03:35 Long-tail dynamics of conscious experience

01:10:47 Why standard suffering metrics miss the extremes

01:12:10 DMT and the treatment of cluster headaches

01:20:09 Consciousness distributed through the body

01:21:48 Psychedelics and large-scale system recalibration

01:26:13 Systems must contain a model of “better” to self-organize

01:33:34 Physiological roots of consciousness and future directions

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