Toward Empirical Tests and Free Lunches

This is a ~57 minute discussion with Elan Barenholtz (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/) about language and its possible autonomy in brains, AI models, and other systems linking to our lab's work on active data and the thoughts-thinkers continuum.

CHAPTERS:

(00:00) Language As Auto-Generator

(21:14) Virtual Governors In Physiology

(30:37) Mathematics, Metaphysics, Free Lunches

(40:40) Language Models As Evidence

(49:46) Minimal Systems, Language Criteria

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