205: Elizabeth McCafferty
Blank Podcast with Giles Paley-Phillips & Jim Daly
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Ducks in the World
I take pigeons over seagulls any time. I am now the parent of a 16 year old, which is very bizarre. My son turned 16, my oldest turned 16 this last week. So yeah, that's kind of strange. Made me philosophy. Very ancient, fully embracing my gray hair and yeah, comudgingly ways. Well, you're making both of those things work so thank you.
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