What does it take to build trust at the scale of billions? In this episode, Patrick sits down with Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia and author of The Seven Rules of Trust, to unpack how one of the internet’s most improbable projects became one of its most trusted institutions. From early skepticism and ridicule to the human systems that made collaboration possible, this conversation explores how trust is built person-to-person, how purpose creates alignment, and why Wikipedia succeeded where so many platforms failed. This is a deep dive into the architecture of trust — and the foundations of building something that lasts.
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