Paul Vanderklay, a minister in the Christian Reformed Church, joins Curt Jaimungal to examine how Jordan Peterson, John Vervaeke, Jonathan Pageau, and Sam Harris shape a “new Christianity.” They debate the nature of Christian belief, the role of God, and the intersection of religion with secularism and the state.

- 0:00:00 - Introduction to Paul Vanderklay
- 0:02:55 - Pros and cons of Peterson, Vervaeke, and Pageau approaches
- 0:08:10 - How Christian is the “new Christianity” put forward by Peterson and Jung
- 0:10:04 - Is this the same old debate referenced by Dostoevsky and Nietzsche?
- 0:13:15 - Solzhenitsyn and the new definition of “religion”
- 0:16:32 - What makes someone a Christian?
- 0:20:42 - What is God? (thoughts on the Sam Harris / Peterson debate)
- 0:24:24 - Why deriding God by analogizing him to “Zeus” is incorrect
- 0:27:30 - Relationship between Christianity, Secularism, and the State
- 0:34:16 - Can you rationally prove God’s existence?
- 0:44:40 - Is Sam Harris a Christian?
- 0:47:47 - How “religion without religion” makes sense
- 0:53:19 - Does freedom just mean “more choice”?

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- PAUL VANDERKLAY YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGsDIP_K6J6VSTqlq-9IPlg
- PAUL VANDERKLAY Twitter: https://twitter.com/PaulVanderKlay
- JOHN VERVAEKE YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
- JONATHAN PAGEAU YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtCTSf3UwRU14nYWr_xm-dQ
- JONATHAN PAGEAU Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan

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