Should celebrities “stay in their lane” when it comes to political or moral matters? Who gets to speak in public, and why do we only object when it makes us uncomfortable?

When Mark Ruffalo spoke out at the Golden Globes about American politics, some applauded his honesty while others told him to “stay in his lane.” In this episode, Savannah and Lee unpack why celebrity activism is celebrated by some and condemned by others, exposing the double standards around fame, faith, politics, and who we think is allowed to speak in public.

Things we mentioned in this episode:

⁠Down There by the Train⁠ by Tom Waits

⁠Come On Up To The House⁠ by Tom Waits

⁠Tehran⁠ on Apple TV

⁠Come and Welcome to Jesus Christ by John Bunyan⁠

⁠The One On The Right Is On The Left Live at the Ryman Auditorium⁠ by Johnny Cash

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