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Mentioned in 21 episodes
Against the Grain
A Deep History of the Earliest States
Book • 2017
In 'Against the Grain', James C. Scott argues that the early agrarian states were not the result of a voluntary transition from hunter-gatherer lifestyles, but rather were formed through coercion and violence.
He challenges the conventional narrative that agriculture led to settled communities, civilization, and improved living standards.
Instead, Scott posits that these early states were often hierarchical, plagued by malnutrition and disease, and reliant on slavery.
The book explores the domestication of fire, plants, and animals, and how these processes led to the control of populations and the emergence of states.
It also discusses the tensions between states and non-state peoples, highlighting the adaptability and resilience of nomadic and hunter-gatherer communities.
He challenges the conventional narrative that agriculture led to settled communities, civilization, and improved living standards.
Instead, Scott posits that these early states were often hierarchical, plagued by malnutrition and disease, and reliant on slavery.
The book explores the domestication of fire, plants, and animals, and how these processes led to the control of populations and the emergence of states.
It also discusses the tensions between states and non-state peoples, highlighting the adaptability and resilience of nomadic and hunter-gatherer communities.
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Mentioned in 21 episodes
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when discussing the impact of early agriculturalists and their diseases on the displacement of hunter-gatherers.


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when discussing agency and the domestication of plants.


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in relation to his theory on the impact of agriculture and disease on human history.


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as one of James C. Scott's influential works that shaped his historical perspective.


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as one of the best-written history books he's read.


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as another great book by James Scott analyzing the start of agriculture and its ties to slavery.


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as a related author whose work challenges conventional narratives of societal development.


Rob Wiblin

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Recommended by Katherine Mangu‑Ward as a compelling reinterpretation of how early states arose and the role of cereal grains.

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referring to James C. Scott's book.


David Wengrow

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, who relies heavily on this book, as a retelling of the agricultural revolution.


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