We’re surrounded by information but many of us still feel unsure about how to live well.

This episode gently explores why midlife pulls us toward wisdom, not more answers. Chip Conley is joined by bestselling author Eric Weiner (The Geography of Bliss, Man Seeks God, The Socrates Express), a curious guide who’s spent years learning from philosophers, cultures, and lived experience. Together, they talk about what ancient wisdom can teach us about modern life—especially when certainty starts to fall away.

In this conversation, you’ll hear:

Why midlife naturally turns us into philosophers
The difference between knowing more and living better
How thinkers like Socrates, Thoreau, and Marcus Aurelius offer practical guidance
Why wonder, humility, and generosity matter more than expertise
Simple ideas that help us navigate change, relationships, and uncertainty

This is a warm, thoughtful, and often playful conversation about slowing down, asking better questions, and learning how to live with more clarity and meaning.

Watch now and step into the wisdom midlife is inviting you to explore.

Timestamps:

04:21 Welcome to Midlife Chrysalis

04:59 Writing with humility and vulnerability

07:02 Book titles and framing ideas

08:34 Geography of Bliss origin story

12:31 Favorite places and soul place

13:54 Ben Franklin and usefulness

18:31 Writing about God and belief

21:44 Geography of Genius and creativity

23:30 Introducing The Socrates Express

24:10 Knowledge vs wisdom

27:23 What philosophy really is

30:38 Wonder vs curiosity

34:40 Stoicism and modern relevance

37:33 Philosophers that resonated most

40:53 Thoreau and learning how to see

44:52 Why philosophy matters in midlife

49:20 Wisdom bumper stickers

52:26 Closing and Santa Fe workshop

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